| Sunday 6th September 2009 08:34pm 1 |

elton w
8 Posts
|
thanks to therevitkid for pointing me here, i'm a first year
building design student (new to revit & building design but not
3d modelling) i hope this forum will take off like the site owner
anticipates as i've been looking for a decent forum (as opposed to
the numerous blogs) as an alternative to the autodesk forums for a
long time.
ok, so my cherry-popping question is: i've recently been playing
around with walkthroughs and to my dismay i've learnt there's no
animation in revit...so my doors can't open and close...yes i made
new doors that are already open but it's just not the same. Now, my
latest project is a 2 storey house and i can't seem to be able to
get the camera to go up the stairs either...is it possible??? If
not should i be transferring it all to 3dsmax and doing it there?
What other programs (compatible with revit) does anyone else
use?
Ta!
|
|
| Sunday 6th September 2009 09:09pm 2 |

Gregory Arkin LEED AP BD+C
6 Posts
|
You can change the elevation of the camera and angle so it can go
up stairs.
You can export your walkthrough as an avi.
Navisworks can take an exported 3d revit model dwf and do a full
walkthrough, animate it easily and it has a gravity feature so it
automatically goes up and down stairs.
To just use Navisworks as a free viewer, go to
www.autodesk.com/navisworks and download navisworks freedom.
Navisworks Freedom is free and I'm surprised not every Revit users
takes advantage of it's amazing ability to do a walkthrough of a
building with ease.
Being one of the creators of those numerous blogs, i take exception
to the connotation that this website would replace what I and
therevitkid do. I think AUGI has done a great job with their Revit
forums, but RevitSociety could be our sanctuary with no worries of
outsiders.
As far as your door opening question, check out this http://www.aecbytes.com/review/2008/NavisWorks2009.html
and Navisworks Review, Simulate and Manage can do the door opening
during an animation.
|
|
| Sunday 6th September 2009 11:35pm 3 |

elton w
8 Posts
|
Hi Gregory, thanks for your prompt reply.
Please, under no circumstance think that i'm assuming (ass-u-me)
AUGI or the autodesk forums aren't any good or need to be replaced.
I have learnt much about Revit from both these sites and many
different blogs. As the revit kid's blog is pretty much my favorite
(which i check nearly everyday), i mentioned my appreciation in the
opening line of my original post. I would hate to think ANYTHING
would replace the revit kid! I would even hope the revit kid may
grace us with his presence here!
However, as informative, educational and sometimes entertaining as
blogs may be, by their very definition blogs are rather one-sided.
They are a diary of someone else.
As the revit kid posted information in his blog, leading to this
forum, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this way. Quote:
"I have yet to come across a site that allowed me to create
friends with other Revit users, interact, post blogs, video chat/IM
and post on forums all within one site. It is my goal for
revitsociety.com to provide users with this ability."
In a previous life i was modelling and animating in 3D using Maya
predominantly, but i have tinkered with 3DS MAX too. I would quite
often visit a forum named "CGSociety.org" which you may have heard
of. CGSociety.org has the ability to do all these wonderful things
such as personal profiles/ galleries, an amazing amount of user
input AND feedback, as well as regular interviews with industry
heavyweights and Idols, which i also learnt volumes from. It wasn't
the only place i would visit, blogs, autodesk forums etc. were part
of my routine as well. But I have yet to find a site, blog,
whatever that comes close in the AEC community, which seems like a
much more insular and fractured industry than the entertainment
industry (yes, perhaps it may take me a while to fit in!;), so when
i see a forum called "Revitsociety" i think it may be a place which
at least aspires to evolve into some of those things quoted
above.
I can assure you that I in no way wish ANY website to replace ANY
other form of information as it is all of some value, even this
brand new website.That said it still remains to be seen whether
this site does succeed. I find it hard to believe many, if any,
could stand up to AUGI in terms of professionalism and the level of
information, but there are many different levels of user that
should be considered, all the way down to someone just fooling
around. This is the internet afterall and i don't see hard drive
sizes getting any smaller. To quote my own post above "as an
alternative" was the intenion of what i meant. I'm sure you'll
agree the more opportunity people have to learn and share, the
better the future for our industry.
Thank you for letting me know about Navisworks and for the aecbytes
link, i will check them out. As for the .avi format, that has been
working up to a point. Anything more than a few GB and my computer
hates it. Yes i seriously need to upgrade!
P.S. for anyone not asleep yet and still interested in my question,
i found a way to change the elevation of the camera as per my
original post. Walkthrough cameras don't seem to have the
functionality of a regular 3D camera. When editing the walkthrough
open an elevation view and you can then move your keyframes to the
desired elevation. You can also change the target elevation here.
Doh! sounds easy, huh?
|
|
| Monday 7th September 2009 06:32am 4 |

Patrick Armstrong
2 Posts
|
Just sticking my head into this forum, Labor Day. As I mentioned,
I'm just starting up in Revit after a year and a Summer of CAD. I'm
glad I have some grounding in vanillaCAD, also glad I didn't spend
10 years using it!
When I graduate in '10, AAS degree, I will be the one to push
Revit/BIM/IPD in some shop that is still struggling with the change
from pencil to CAD, so I had better be a good salesman as well as a
good technician.
Have a great Labor Day!!! Pat A. (and that ain't chopped
liver.....)
|
|
| Monday 7th September 2009 07:27am 5 |

Gregory Arkin LEED AP BD+C
6 Posts
|
Elton, no worries. Jeff, the Revit Kid is indeed here. I guess I'm
on information overload between, blogs, twitter, rss feeds, forums,
etc. It's impossible to keep up with all of the information. Yes,
blogs can be quite one sided. I make a great effort to add posts
from many other bloggers and sources so I try to give my readers a
rather robust blog to visit. I'm jealous you visit the Revit Kids's
blog everyday and not my Revit3D.com. It's funny because we read
eachother's blogs and cross reference information frequently.
I started with just the virtues of Revit, and have morphed into
Revit, Navisworks, Ecotect, IES, a host of other programs, Green
Building, Sustainability, LEED, Integrated Project Delivery, 2D,
3D, 4D, 5D and 6D (one I made up for IPD), and so many other
things.
The reality is that BIM is part of a big database of experience,
objects, teamwork, information and people. I liken it to a floppy
disc versus the internet. That's the difference between CAD and BIM
in my mind. Revit depends on the sharing of knowledge, best
practices, past mistakes and putting all of our heads together. It
does sound nice to have a "Society" of Revit users. Makes it sound
so elegant. No need to clarify anything you said. We're all here to
help each other. I've come across so few Maya users, so perhaps
you'll be the perfect candidate to help others with conceptual
massing in Revit.
|
|
| Monday 7th September 2009 09:30am 6 |

Patrick Armstrong
2 Posts
|
RE: Overload keeping up with blogs, RSS, etc. Any advice on how to
organize MY feeds, blogs, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
Presently using Yoono for Twitter, FB, MySpace, but my RSSs
languish unread, as I have signed up for way too many. I guess I
just have to actually read them and weed out what's over/under my
head at this point.
Couldn't be happier to meet all of you, Pat P.S., sometimes I sign
'Padraig' or Pawrig or even Patrick! Like Shakespeare I play with
my name........(s). Ahh, my ArcGIS Explorer update is done. Later,
pja
|
|
| Monday 7th September 2009 11:02am 7 |

Gregory Arkin LEED AP BD+C
6 Posts
|
I've found Google's RSS Reader to be a great tool. I've made
folders and keep my subscriptions organized. I have an A, B and C
list. A list is stuff I want to see every day. B and C are things I
look at when I'm bored. Then I have a Revit folder with all things
Revit and BIM. That's followed by an All things Revit with a lot
more feeds.
You can keep your subscriptions duplicated in multiple foflders, so
if you read it in one, it disappears from the others. I've gone so
far as to add my favorite tweeters as RSS feeds in a folder called
Twitter + so I don't miss anything they say. You can also search
for keywords within those tweets. You can do the same with
Facebook. A keyword search in twitter can be added as an RSS stream
so you don't have to read every tweet.
That's all worked very well for me and it's organized, easy to find
stuff and I don't waste time on the sites.
|
|
| Monday 14th September 2009 04:52pm 8 |

Jeffrey A. Pinheiro, LEED AP
6 Posts
|
Elton,
Thank you so much for the kinds words. As Greg said... I like the
idea of this being our own little unknown (to those who we don't
want to know  ) sanctuary for Revit
heaven.
As far as your question about walkthroughs up stairs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp8nybB67B4
I will post this on my blog too... I thought I did way back when
I saw it but it does not look like I did.
|
|
| Tuesday 15th September 2009 07:20pm 9 |

elton w
8 Posts
|
Thanks Jeff! i'll have a look now
|
|
| Wednesday 16th September 2009 01:12am 10 |

elton w
8 Posts
|
Jeffrey, i have been forming a better workflow for creating a
walkthrough, practice, practice, practice... a slight shame (for
compatibilty with school) i still need to use revit 2009 where you
don't have an option to select a certain level, although i can
still enter the absolute elevation between keyframes. Also i hadn't
thought of isolating the path if needed either. Thanks again for
the link. :)
|
|
| Wednesday 16th September 2009 07:21pm 11 |

Jeffrey A. Pinheiro, LEED AP
6 Posts
|
No problem!
Why do you NEED to use 2009?
|
|
| Wednesday 16th September 2009 08:04pm 12 |

elton w
8 Posts
|
i do a lot of work during class time at college , which is still
using 2009. i have 2009+2010 at home but i can't open 2010 files in
2009...(thanks autodesk). In Maya you can save as *.ma (native
*.mb), open the file in a text editor and change the year codes
there. Then files will open in older versions. Are there any known
workarounds for revit?
Having said that, our school year finishes mid-November so i'm
hoping my college will upgrade over the christmas break...great,
until 2011 comes out of course ;)
I haven't really had time to explore things in 2010 like the swept
blend tool either, but in regards to conceptual massing + content
creation i'm considering learning more 3dsmax which is a lot easier
when you can create 3d splines or directly manipulate polygons,
vertices etc. with one click/drag of the mouse and don't need to
worry about reference planes etc. I have a friend doing interior
design (where i'm picking up a bit of content creation work, hence
some of the walkthrough work too) but as brilliant as Revit is at
what it was designed to do, I find it rather limited for
modelling!
Next year we will also be learning a program called FirstRate which
is in the vein of Ecotect but at a state-wide regulatory level. I
see so much to learn i wonder if i'll ever actually get out into
the industry!
|
|
| Friday 18th September 2009 06:52pm 13 |

Jeffrey A. Pinheiro, LEED AP
6 Posts
|
Oh okay... Understandable... My school was like that as well. They
had all the new 2010 licenses but never installed. Of course, I
spoke to the head of the department about that!
I think it would be very beneficial to you to really dig into
2010. Regardless of the negative and positive feedback of the new
UI, etc... I believe it is a babystep for much more from
Autodesk. The conceptual modeling environment is a HUGE jump for
Revit but has lots of potential.
Check out all of the videos over at www.DesignReform.net for some
great conceptual modeling informaiton.
If you plan on using Revit more advanced then I would focus on
the 3D development in Revit as opposed to 3DS Max. I have nothing
bad to say about 3DS Max and it is on a whole different planet
than Revit. If you really want to use Revit to its full potential
than learning some very advanced family creation (especially when
it comes to interior design) would be very beneficial. Just
remember that learning 3D Max will not necessarily help your
Revit skills much at all.
Also, there is no way to open 2010 files in 2009. Just imagine
the idea doesn't exist.
|
|
| Friday 26th February 2010 10:02am 14 |

Terry Curtis
2 Posts
|
Hey guys
Here's a complete (old) novice from Inverness in the beautiful
highlands of Scotia, it's five to six in the evening here, and I
have been trying to find a site where us complete novices can be
assisted!
I am a lecturer in construction over here in bonnie Scotland -
that's always a problem, our construction is just so different to
most of you who are on line, but if you don't mind assisting an old
duffer over here in 'old country' I would be more than happy to
receive any assistance you might be willing to provide.
Haste ye back
Regards,
Terry
|
|